Comments on: Spinning Your Wheels? How I Went From Newbie To Intermediate Trainee

By: Ryan Zielonka

Ryan Zielonka — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:01:39 +0000

JC,

Would you be interested in a training round table? I’d like to get Lyle, yourself, Martin, Alan, and I together to talk training philosophy.

@Ryan: sure

By: JC

JC — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:21:05 +0000

while I do not know much about it, I did read up on it briefly. In general it seems that 50-60 reps per body part/session 2x per week seems to be optimal for most trainees in search of hypertrophy. so in this case on an upper day I could see someone who wanted to bring up their lats or chest doing an exhausting set of one movement. say either dips, presses, chins or rows.

In fact it sounds kind of fun and I might have to try it sometime. I briefly read an article I found about someone doing it and adding 17lbs of muscle in 9 months. I don’t really buy that unless they were a newb or on drugs. I vaguely remember the author say he was a competitive BBer.

I am sure it has worked for some.

By: JE Gonzalez

JE Gonzalez — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:59:35 +0000

yup 8X8

By: JC

JC — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:13:08 +0000

pb and honey is a good combo. warmed in the microwave is even better.

there is a point when some of that training becomes effective… you either get so advanced and so strong that you have to ditch frequency, begin taking massive amounts of drugs where any type of training works or just be a freak that will respond to anything.

as for VG’s workouts, are you talking about the 8×8 stuff?

By: JE Gonzalez

JE Gonzalez — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:03:17 +0000

I have a friend who used to make fresh cherry jam. Jack LaLanne, suggested a peanut butter and honey sandwhich.
BTW, is there ever a point where the training in the magazines would result in a good routine. My guess would be once one is past the 230 lb point and has just started juicing.
Have you ever tried Vince Gironda’s workouts?